By:
ggg
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22.09.2004 @ 11:21
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Sembra che i casi Trinità o Ritorno al futuro* non ci()vi abbiano insegnato nulla.
Leggiamo(te) qui invece di fare tante moine presuntuose del tipo io ho visto i film primo di voi come sono paraculo.
queste sono le cose serie e TRISTI PURTROPPO
During the first dive to attack the Death Star (1:14 into Chapter 45 or 1:46:13 into the movie) the music is completely dialed out of the main channels and is inaudible during the movie. This is a section of music that previously had a very prominent role in the action. The remnants of the music (a grand statement of the Force theme) can be heard in the surround channels, but with all of the channels engaged in a properly calibrated home theater, you cannot hear this music. The next fifteen seconds has the music coming and going as finally the music seems to come back in fully at the 1:46:27 mark (1:29 into the chapter), but that fifteen seconds is enough to make anyone question this new re-mix and really miss the music that was always there.
The other problem with the music lasts throughout the entire 124 running time of the film. The music that is mixed into the surround channels is reversed, completely throwing off the music sound stage. The front speakers have the music mixed into the proper channels. The error with the surrounds can be most easily heard during the opening and closing titles as well as the Throne Room. A section that I'm fond of occurs in chapter 7 (2:16 into the chapter, 13:38 into the film). It's a very close mic'd recording of a tuba. It should come from the right side of your home theater, but instead the sound comes from the right front channel and the left surround channel! And this is not an isolated incident.
Keep in mind that all of the sound effects that come from the rear speakers are mixed properly. This flaw only effects John Williams' Oscar winning score.
Neil
UPDATE #1: From The Digital Bits:
In all the hype over the DVD release of Star Wars, I'm afraid to say there's a bit of bad news about the discs (or at least one of them) from a quality standpoint. We've discovered what we believe are serious audio defects on Episode IV - A New Hope. We've updated our DVD review of the set accordingly with the details as follows:
1) The familiar Force theme trumpet fanfare that used to play right after Red Leader says: 'This is it!' and just as the X-wings start diving towards the Death Star's surface has been dialed back in volume so that it's almost inaudible - it's almost completely buried in the surround mix.
2) The audio quality varies wildly as Tarkin says the line: 'You would prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system.' - almost as if the master sound element was damaged. It's very distracting.
3) Possibly most critically, John Williams' entire score for the film has been flipped in the rear channels, so that what should be the left rear channel is playing from the right rear channel (and vise versa). What this means is that the rear channels don't match the front channels - instruments heard from the front right channel come from the left rear instead of the right rear. Again, this is very distracting once you notice it.
These problems are certainly severe enough in our opinion to merit a repressing/exchange of the disc. We're waiting to hear back from Lucasfilm on this issue and we'll update this review with the details as soon as we do.
UPDATE #2: From JWFan contributor John Takis (via Ain't It Cool News):
'A good friend of mine has brought to my attention the fact that John Williams' awe-inspiring Star Wars score has been severely mishandled on the new DVD.
'The score has been flipped in the rear-channels. Not the sound-effects, which are properly placed. Just the score. Not in the front channels. Just the rear channels.
'This is not a minor or superficial detail. Readers will recall that the entire PURPOSE of stereo and surround-sound in music is so that the various instruments are correctly positioned. Violins on the left, cellos on the right. Percussion on the left, low brass on the right. And so on. Instrument direction matters in music, especially orchestral music … if it didn't, there would be no reason to consider stereo or 5.1 recordings superior to mono.
'Just go to chapter 49 on the new 'Star Wars' DVD — the 'Throne Room' scene. Violins come from the hard-right on the surrounds, cellos hard-left, while the front-channel mix is correct. Many people will not be sensitive enough to notice this flaw. That doesn't erase the flaw, or make it less significant. It is essentially a 124-minute audio glitch. And it's not simply a case of crossed speaker-wires ... as I said, the sound-effects are correctly positioned in the surround channels. It's just the music that's backwards.
'And this is just one flaw in a highly questionable sound-mix. We also have missing sound-effects (it's possible they were left off intentionally in some cases), dialogue-quality that varies widely over the course of a single line ('You would prefer another target, a military target?' — crystal clear; 'Then name the system!' — old and cruddy, with no attempt to balance or smooth the transition), and — perhaps most annoyingly — dialed-out music. Remember the awesome fanfare-version of the Force theme that kicks off the Death Star battle? Good luck hearing it this time around — it's virtually inaudible.
* (sono stati i tedeschi e non i vari siti o le riviste ad accorgesi dell'errore del cofanetto italiano... e poi dicono i tedeschi..)
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